As always on reviews and opinions expressed throughout the broadcast day, are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of Redwood Community Radio|the station, it's staff, its board, it's Underwriters it's Hangers On or anyone else involved, thank you so much for joining us. Our phone number is 923 3911 where you are to be calling soon with your memories of Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat. And here's our theme song. Pipe music plays.

Well welcome to this month's Ask Your Herb Doctor, November the 17th 2023 Edition. My name's Andrew Murray.

My name is Sarah Johannesen Murray, welcome.

You're listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMUD Garberville, 91.1 FM, and on the web at Redwood Community Radio > https://www.kmud.org | kmud.org. We are also live streaming this program to our Western Botanical Medicine > https://www.youtube.com/@westernbotanicalmedicine | Western Botanical Medicine YouTube Channel. So you can listen live right now on our channel by searching "Western Botanical Medicine|Western Botanical Medicine" in the search bar on YouTube, and click on the live stream.

Hi this is Wanita from Reno. I was seen by Gambi, Dr|a doctor that was a friend of Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat and he recommended some of Peat, Raymond|Dt Peat's material to me years and years ago. Did you want me to give you more details?

Hi. Hi Wanita, thank you for calling in. Can you please tell me what year that was that you were a patient of a friend of Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat's?

It was Gambi, Dr #38 and I'm thinking it was around about 1981 or '82. Somewhere in there.

Yes. Please can you tell us a story about how you first heard of Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat in 1982?

I had had some Depression|depression, Anxiety|anxiety, Fear|fear after the birth of my first child, and it continued for quite a while. It lasted probably a total of about five years. But after about three years I had seen another medical doctor in a different town where I was living. He just wanted to put me on Amitriptyline|Elavil and told me that's just the way I was.

And where was Gambi, Dr|Dr Gambi at that time? Where were you living at that time?

Eugene Oregon. And I did go see Gambi, Dar|Dr Gambi and I was just bowled over by his kindness. He listened. He nodded his head and he kind of would mutter something about "well yeah that's a symptom of this or that" you know.

Good job!

<span title="laughs" style="font-size:1.5rem; line-height:1rem; position:relative; top: 3px;">😅</span> He asked if I'd ever had a Glucose Tolerance Test|glucose tolerance test and I said _yes_, that this other doctor had ordered it but everything seemed to be normal, apparently. So Gambi, Dr|he had me fill out paperwork and he sent for _that_: the results.

Sorry, Wanita can I interrupt you for a moment? Do you have the live stream or the radio playing or something because there's _a lot_ of feedback?

I don't have anything playing here.

Are you on a speaker phone or?

Oh yeah. You want me to take it off of speaker?

Yes please, if you don't mind. Just so we can hear you a little clearer.

Is that better?

Yes that does sound better, thank you Wanita.

You're welcome.

See, what year was that that you first came to see us?

Well, I think it was around 18 years ago.

Yeah, that sounds about right. And that was when I had first started working with Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat. And when you first consulted with us you were so surprised that _we_ were working with Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat because you had worked with Gambi, Dr|Dr Gambi, who had worked with Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat and it was just such a beautiful coincidence.

Yes. Yes, it was actually kind of reassuring that I was heading in the right direction after having my experience with Gambi, Dr|Dr Gambi. And we had in the meantime moved to Reno so I had lost that contact.

Right. Well that's wonderful. Thank you for sharing that Wanita.

I have another story about Regina|Regina but it's not so much Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat it's more with what Western Botanical Medicine|Western Botanical has done for her.

Well if you'd be happy to share that, that would be great. And I can put in how Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat helped me with helping her.

Okay. Regina|Regina is my daughter-in-law, and she started having Epileptic Seizure|seizures. She had passed out a few times when she was younger. Her mom had had her tested and they didn't find anything that they thought was causing it. But it wasn't real significant, but it continued to escalate, and finally she was having Generalised Tonic-Clonic Seizure|grand mal Seizures. And they were so bad she couldn't drive for about three months at a time after each one. Her stomach was always upset.

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So that didn't seem to be a concern to anybody. And of course, we didn't know any better.

[13:39] Yeah and I just want to say that I– when you first contacted me I said "well I can definitely help you with herbs, but I'm working with this _brilliant_ doctor who can help her with the diet, and I think together she can come off her Epilepsy|epileptic drugs, and she can be free of Epileptic Seizure|seizures, for the most part."

And she has been.

And she has been.

Even more so as years have gone by. I don't think she's had a seizure now for about a year and a half.

Yeah.

And usually those are under like maybe a lot of Stress|stress, and maybe some Nutrition|diet interruptions or something.

[14:16] And my understanding is Phenytoin|Dilantin and the other seizure medications are actually really, really horrible and affect your day-to-day life in a lot of ways, is that accurate?

Oh! It was terrible! The doctor even told Regina|her– he said "well with Phenytoin|Dilantin you wake up"– and he said "you just wake up stupid." And so Regina|she would try to do something like, say, make coffee, and Regina|she would maybe forget to put the grounds in. So Regina|she'd start over and then Regina|she'd, you know, maybe forget– she might get it all together but forget to turn it on.

Exactly.

And so it was just a _joy_ to finally get Regina|her to where Regina|she could live again and start taking part in all the things that Regina|she'd had to quit.

Yep may it goes

Well thank you so much Wanita for calling in and sharing yours and your daughter-in-law's story, Regina|Regina I really appreciate that.

We're _very, very_ appreciative of you guys and the good results that she's had and that I've had too, because I followed the diet. Thank you so much.

Awe, thank you for your call.

Thank you. Bye.

[6:10] Okay so let's just put this out again, whoever's listening, we're taking calls from now until 8 o'clock. The number's 707 923 3911. There's lots of chatter going on in the live stream and I know that we sent out a request earlier on if people wanted to call in.

Hey Andrew.

Hey, good evening.

Good evening to you and Sarah. It's so lovely, it's just a gift to get to [inaudible].

Caller, you're cutting in and out a lot. If you're on a cell phone is there a better place you could, maybe, talk from, or if you're talking through your computer maybe you have a connection issue?

[inaudible]

Yeah, we're having a really hard time hearing you.

Oh!

Like, every third syllable cuts out.

Oh, well um. Hold on a second.

Yeah we'll wait for you to get a better signal if that's what the issue is. But we'll sit tight.

Is that [inaudible]

No...

Hello?

Yeah, carry on say something.

Is that better [inaudible]

Erm, no. Well I heard "is that better" but then you cut out.

Okay, well let me call back on a different line.

Sure, yeah go ahead and do that. Okay, no problem. We'll wait on that.

Well, apart from his website, he did have a website.

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–in 2008.

He did.

I couldn't find very many external links or, you know, mention of his name online in 2008. I know there were people, I've talked to people, like, you know, I mean, the client Wanita, who just called in. She had been working with Gambi, Dr|Dr Gambi in the 80s, who was working with Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat. So obviously he's been busy working away all these years, but when you searched on Google or you did an internet search it was hard to find him listed. And we're so delighted that, now, on Twitter, on YouTube, there's just so many _wonderful_ ways to hear Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat.

[19:26] Yep. Okay. So 2008, that was the first experience. He came on the radio show and he did a program specifically on Polyunsaturated Fat|polyunsaturated fats and it was kind of mind-blowing because, even with our, kind of, Herbal Medicine|herbal medicine degree in England, which was a four-year, full-time degree that you did once you'd got your prerequisites done; you did a four-year University program. We were taught, you know, Fish Oil|fish oil was good for you. We were taught Sugar|sugar was bad for you. Table Salt|Salt was bad for you. And all these things that Peat, Raymond|he just exploded as completely untrue.

Hi Andrew, is that better?

I think it could be, yeah go ahead.

<span title="laughs" style="font-size:1.5rem; line-height:1rem; position:relative; top: 3px;">😊</span> Okay, well I first met Ray when I was about 30, and I was a Veganism|vegan at the time and Cold Sensitivity|freezing and had Hypothyroidism|low thyroid and everything, and Peat, Raymond|Ray just set me straight and told me pretty much everything I was eating was not working.

Alright.

And then about seven years Around 2016. ago I had major health issues and Peat, Raymond|Ray saved my life!

Okay.

He did phone calls with my doctor to help my doctor understand what was happening.

What year was this?

That was 2013.

Okay.

Yeah, he actually did three way phone calls with my doctor to help with what was wrong with me. [inaudible]

And you have an open minded doctor too.

Oh, she was amazing. She _actually_ heard about Peat, Raymond|Ray from several of her patients. And at one point she said "I defer to Peat, Raymond|him." She said "because he knows more than me!"

Yep.

You know, which was pretty vulnerable, but it was _so_ loving of Peat, Raymond|Ray to do that, and so vulnerable. And, you know, I've often thought about that, and about just the _love_ and the caring to do something like that.

Yep.

So, you know, I know oftentimes people don't know that much about, you know, Peat, Raymond|Rays's personal life or Katherine|Katherine or anything, but he really had a good life.

[23:16] Yeah, I never met anybody, I think, who has just given so much and, yeah, he was just so passionate about it that I think _all_ the time Peat, Raymond|he was by his computer and he was searching stuff, and he was, you know, he was just like a bookworm, an old fashioned bookworm, you know, with a head in a book.

[23:48] He did tell me one time, <span title="laughs" style="font-size:1.5rem; line-height:1rem; position:relative; top: 3px;">😂</span>, he said "I still haven't figured out a couple things."

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Cos I think I said to him, I said "is there anything you _don't know_ Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat?" and he said "well, I don't understand why cats purr."

<span title="laughs" style="font-size:1.5rem; line-height:1rem; position:relative; top: 3px;">😂</span> That's interesting, well he has–

And Peat, Raymond|he also said "I don't understand why we yawn."

Oh, I wish I'd known that. I read somewhere once that people yawn because you're trying to get more oxygen.

I think that's the commonly accepted theory for it. But hey, we're not in a position to refute it at this point.

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[24:29] How– so just go ahead, now you've called in, what's one of the most relevant things that he's helped you with, or he helped you with back then when you were consulting with the doctor through him?

Well, the biggest thing that Peat, Raymond|Ray helped me with was Sugar|sugar.

Uh-hmm.

You know, that was– I had been someone who had, like– I could go years and not touch Sugar|sugar. And I did all the diets and everything, and he was the first person that I said to him "I know you won't believe me but I probably only eat about 500 calories a day and I can't lose weight!" And Peat, Raymond|he said "Oh no, Of course! Someone with a Hypothyroidism|low thyroid of course." And that was _revolutionary_ for me, because anyone else I ever spoke to, they'd look at me and they'd go "Oh my God you're overweight, you must eat _this_, and, you know, I wasn't, and that was revolutionary and when he talked to me about eating Sugar|sugar and I, you know, I would say "are you sure Peat, Raymond|Ray? Is it really all right to eat Sugar|sugar?" and he'd say "Yes, it's really all right to drink orange juice. Yes, you really need it" and that was lifechanging for me, you know, besides about Estrogen|estrogen and my Hypothyroidism|thyroid and everything. But just that level of _acceptance_ from someone, to please say, like, "No! I don't overeat" and, you know, "I do everything and I'm not losing weight." It was so so healing.

Uh-hmm. Yep.

[26:09] I know, and a lot of times I think people _understand_ that if you eat Sugar|sugar or Honey|honey _without_ the Starch|starchy carbohydrates like the Flour|flours and everything else it goes with, and you just have it with your Coffee|coffee, or with your Milk|milk, or added to your Orange Juice|orange juice, if you just add Sugar|sugar or Honey|honey to those items that don't have that _Starch|starch_ there it doesn't feed the Bacteria|bacteria in your Small Intestine|small intestine, and it doesn't cause the feeding and overgrowth of Yeast|yeast organisms and Candida|candida because it's absorbed in the _Stomach|stomach_ and there's nothing left when it enters the Small Intestine|small intestine. And that is what Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat was meaning when he was saying "eat Sugar|sugar." He wasn't saying go eat Cake|cakes and Cookie|cookies–

No, no, no.

–and Candy|candy bars, you know, he was suggesting that you use it as a fuel, as a Carbohydrate|carbohydrate fuel– and he told me one time, he said "well how do you think the pyramids were built?"

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Peat, Raymond|He said, "the Ancient Egypt|Egyptians had discovered Sugar|sugar."

Yeah, and I remember recently coming across something somewhere that Peat, Raymond|he wrote that he was talking about "every great civilization that was innovative and intellectual," they all ate Sugar|sugar!

Uh-hm.

And, you know, I mean, _still_ every day you see on the internet somewhere: "don't eat Sugar|sugar."

Yeah.

"Don't eat Sugar|sugar."

It's a cult. Yep.

And, you know, it's still out there. And when I think about the impact on _women_.

Umm.

And the Misinformation|misinformation that women get. And, you know, friends of mine that have had– females that have had health problems, and the Misinformation|misinformation, the things that they're told, it's really, it's sorrowful.

Yep.

[28:02] But I also want to say, that I think is really important since Peat, Raymond|Ray has left the physical plane, is there's so many people now talking about Peat, Raymond|Ray and his ideas. And places like Ray Peat Forum|Ray Peat Forum, as an example, even though there's, you know, sometimes there's things there that are inaccurate, there's a _love_ there of people wanting to help each other, and people caring. And like the work that you and Andrew do, that Peat, Raymond|Ray's work is continuing and the love that he started is still ongoing, and I think, like, what a wonderful thing to think about your life, that you started all this, and it's continuing.

Yep. Can't get enough.

Yeah Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat set a really good example of sharing information and caring for people– truly caring. He truly _cared_ for every client I would ever talk to him about. He truly cared and he wanted to help.

Oh yeah, he did.

Peat, Raymond|He wanted to help everybody. And I think that's a good example he set for all of us practitioners who use his wonderful advice, and for people that are trying to help themselves from his advice. You know, it really– the love spreads.

Yes and there, you know, sometimes, you know, just because Peat, Raymond|he had that information– it was his choice as a person to share it, to be that kind of human being. He didn't go "oh I've learned this and I'm going to keep it to myself!" he was _gracious giving_. I have a friend who says "gracious giving is when you give a part of yourself when you give," and Peat, Raymond|Ray practiced gracious giving. He was always–

Yep.

–you know, if I'd have a phone call with Peat, Ray|him, an hour later I'd get an email "Oh, here I want to tell you this."

Yeah.

Just, you know, it was so beautiful, and I think he was a _happy person_ because of that–

Uh-hm.

You know, even though he didn't get the recognition that he deserved, and certainly monetarily–

Yeah.

But he was happy.

Peat, Raymond|He wasn't interested in that. He just wanted to be on the phone, talk to people, and share what he knew.

Yeah, yeah.

That's the bottom line. He was not at all financially motivated I can– be assured of that. can Well thank you so much for calling in and sharing. I just want to make sure that people that are waiting get a chance to share also, but thanks so much for saying what you've said about Peat, Raymond|him and remembrance of him.

[31:27] So, a caller would like the _spelling_ of Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat's last name so that they can find stuff online.

Okay, it's– well his website is Peat, Raymond > https://raypeat.com | www.raypeat.com and that's "R A Y," and then the name is Peat: "P E A T,"–like peat, moss– ".com". So, "PEAT." "RAY PEAT."

And, I foolishly said I'd ask a quick, easy herb question for you guys. Well, maybe easy cos you're a smart group of people: "blood coagulant herbs." Someone had an operation or something and they want herbs that will thicken the blood.

Mmm.

And of course, you caller, you're probably listening in, and you should always– I should have said "no." Because you should always really be available to get more information, because whatever they tell you now is not as good as the information you would get if you actually let them ask you a few questions. But here it is guys: "blood thickening herbs please."

Yeah.

[32:55] Well–

Alright, I'll say my piece after you say yours.

So Vitamin K is Amphoterism|amphoteric. Vitamin K2|Vitamin K2, it helps to keep the blood from being too thick and too thin. So that is the one supplement–

In terms of regulating Platelet-Activating Factor|platelet-activation factor and those other Coagulation Cascade|clotting cascades.

–yes and Coenzyme Q10|CoQ10 is a precursor for your body, I mean Vitamin KS|K2, sorry, is a precursor for your body to make its Coenzyme Q10|CoQ10. So Vitamin K2|Vitamin K2 and Coenzyme Q10|CoQ10 are what I would call Amphoterism|amphoteric, they'll help keep your _blood_ healthy.

And what herb or food sources have a lot of Vitamin K2|K2?

Vitamin K2|Vitamin K2 is found highest in green leafy vegetables such as Kale|kale. Kale|Kale is King. Also in Urtica Dioica|nettle leaf and you can get some of that through making Urtica Dioica|nettle leaf infusion, but really Kale|kale is probably higher in Vitamin K2|vitamin K2. You do need to be careful with Kale|kale because it is very Goitrogen|thyroid suppressive so you might want to, if you have Thyroid|thyroid issues and you want to eat Kale|kale and eat enough to get a lot of Vitamin K|vitamin K, then you would need to boil it. I usually boil it for about an _hour_ in order to help make it more digestible, and to get more of the vitamins and minerals out. _But_ having said that, there's still not very much in there if you really need to regulate blood thickness and keeping your blood in a healthy range you would probably need to supplement with Vitamin K2|vitamin K2.

[34:19] And Fermentation|fermented foods have that as well?

Yes, Fermentation|fermented foods do have some Vitamin K2|vitamin K2 as well.

But as [inaudible] said, there's one milligram per drop Vitamin K2|K2 product by a well-known manufacturer, so– can easily be found on the internet, folks. So, if you type in "1 milligram per drop Vitamin K|vitamin K" and you expressly look for one milligram per drop you'll find a good company. It's not cheap but it's very alternative and one drop will buffer the effects of a 325 milligram Acetylsalicylic Acid|aspirin tablet in terms of its, you know, blood thinning quote unquote–

That will help Coagulant|thicken your blood if you want to say it like that. If aspirin Anticoagulant|thins your blood you can take Vitamin K2|vitamin K2 to help Coagulant|thicken your blood but it doesn't really thicken your blood because it's, like I said Amphoterism|amphoteric so it helps keep it regulated, and the company is Thorn Research|Thorn Research. It does come in Medium-Chain Triglyceride|MCT oil which a _lot_ of people are allergic to Medium-Chain Triglyceride|MCT oil even in the one or two drops daily, so you have to use about four times as much topically if you need one drop. So you'd have to use four drops topically rubbed on the inner part of your arm or your inner thighs.

[35:24] Okay, so we have a couple of callers waiting here. Let's take this next caller.

Hi I'm from the San Francisco Bay area and I'd like to share a memory that I have with Peat, Raymond, Dr Peat.

Yeah.

–and helping these individuals that are suffering." And I was _blown away_ by that.

It's not a worldly view is it, perhaps?

Yeah, yeah. And I'm just so grateful for Peat, Raymond|him for everything that he's done. If people haven't started out his Nutrition|nutritional recommendations I just recommend they just start because it's life-changing. I started that before I even tried supplements and just his nutritional recommendations have changed my life.

Haha.

and I'm just so grateful that Peat, Raymond|he was blessed to have Katherine|Katherine in his life, because I don't think he would have done nearly what he accomplished without her.

Yep, it takes two to tango. Well thank you so much for your call.

So, Marine County.

Okay Marine County, go ahead.

Yeah so I just want to say without Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat I wouldn't have known to get a Thyroid Function Test|thyroid panel as a young guy, you know. So seeing what my Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone|TSH was, you know, Peat, Raymond|Ray basically influenced me, you know, take a moderate dose of a Thyroid Hormone|thyroid hormone.

Uhm.

[40:07] And one thing I'm gonna say about Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat that I think is really underrated is, you know, with a lot of Alternative Medicine|Alternative Health stuff you hear, like, Ancestral Diet|ancestral diets and stuff like this, but I thought Peat, Raymond|Ray was really good at making people appreciate New World,like, knowledge. Like, you know, mentioning Frangula Purshiana|cascara sagrada,

Uh-hm.

You know, and stuff like this cos–

Sorry Carl, can I interrupt you. We're having a really hard time hearing you, are you on speaker phone?

I am not on speaker phone.

Okay, because your signal must be cutting in and out because we're not hearing all of your sentences.

Okay. Hello, can you hear me now?

Well, yes carry on.

Okay, did you get what I said about the New World?

You were starting to say "New World", and "Peat, Raymond|he had a way of helping people see something" and then I couldn't hear.

Okay, so I just appreciate the fact that Peat, Raymond|Ray opened up the– just the idea that the New World has so much to offer with regards to health. Because with a lot of Alternative Medicine|Alternative Health communities you hear about like Ancestral Diet|ancestral diet and stuff, but Peat, Raymond|Ray was big on Frangula Purshiana|cascara sagrada and Masa Harina|masar harina and stuff like this.

Uh-hm.

And I think without Peat, Raymond|him the New World contributions to health would be overlooked. Yep.

Yes Peat, Raymond|he had an amazing amount of knowledge that he so freely gave.

Yeah, and I think Peat, Raymond|he basically inculcated, like, a lot of knowledge for a whole new generation, and I think there's like, maybe, at least a hundred of, like, top minds that are going to be contributing, like, for the betterment of society. Like, we'll see. We'll see in the next decades.

Yes I believe that.

That's the hope, that's the Hope.

Yeah. Okay that's it. But much love for Peat, Raymond|Ray Peat and much love for Western Botanical Medicine|you guys.

Yeah, thank you for your call.

Thank you for calling in.

[42:28] Okay, so once again the number here if you want to call in with any tribute is 707 923 3911, and the show's running until 8 o'clock.

Hi, my name is Brendan I'm from Pomo County.

Okay Brendon go ahead.

Yeah, I just like to share that after Peat, Raymond|Peat kind of came to me in a, sort of a, a dreamlike state. I was kind of in a shallow state of dreaming. It might have been an Rapid Eye Movement|REM type state, and he just came to me. And I never really had any interactions with him before but, I don't know if any other people that had interactions with Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat could share this relationship, but–

Okay, well sorry caller, can I stop you right there. Are you–

Terrible, every call has been such a poor call quality.

–I know, I'm sorry we're having poor quality here.

I was able to hear that?

I can hear– there's nothing but, kind of, reverberation, and echos, and–

Well he feels that Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat came to him when he was in, sort of, a half dream state and was curious if other people had experienced any sort of–

Hhm.

Is that is that correct caller? Did I hear you correctly?

Yeah, yeah. You're correct, and I think I had heard of Peat, Raymond|him before but I never really knew any relationship to him or actually knew him as Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat, but he just– and I just woke up, and it was kind of like, you know, day– kind of a Daydream|Daydream. I don't recall if I actually went to sleep or was just during the day, and I came out, just felt more full and kind of more energized, and wanted to share that experience.

So you're saying you felt like Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat appeared to you in a dream several months ago?

Sort of like that. I was just– it's kind of hazy at this point, but Peat, Raymond|he kind of, I guess he just kind of reached down and touched me in that kind of way. And then I just woke up [inaudible] and I was lucid again. I was interacting with the real world, and I just felt totally different like a totally different personality and mindset, shift.

Hhm.

Well that's very interesting.

Finally wwith Thyroid|thyroid patients too.

You have Thyroid|thyroid patients who have taken thyroid for 15 years–

I have to go, that's just what I had to share.

Thank you for sharing.

Thank you, bye.

Yeah, we have a client who has been taking thyroid for 15 years and they just miraculously were able to come off of it and they feel totally great!

I'm mean Peat, Raymond|he'd always said that the body could just continue manufacturing Thyroid Hormone|thyroid hormone and that taking supplementation would not block your Thyroid|thyroid from doing anything again. So it was always there in the background.

Hi, my name is Kathy Miller and I'm from Humble County. I wanted to say that I really appreciate this show whenever I hear it however to be honest I don't listen to the radio very much at night.

Sure.

But when I did catch this show I really got a lot out of it and Peat, Raymond|Dr Peat confirmed for me that doing the Coenzyme Q10|CoQ10 and Vitamin D|D, Vitamin D2|D2, Vitamin K3|K3 with my condition was– it was right. And I'm really appreciating that.

Oh, haha. Peat, Raymond|he had a very, very clear view on Coronavirus Disease 2019|COVID and it's unfortunate that we haven't gotten around to it, if that's the right word, I just get so busy. I've got probably 14 radio shows that we haven't put up on Western Botanical Medicine > https://www.westernbotanicalmedicine.com/pages/ask-your-herb-doctor | the website yet from, let's see, I started doing the 2020 shows and a couple of 2021 shows.

Okay, that's it. And so Peat, Raymond|he advised that you don't take the vaccines, or?

Peat, Raymond|he was, yeah. He was just saying it's an experimental drug and as such it had _no_ testing. And people like Peter Andrew McCullough|Dr Peter McCullogh, a famous cardiologist, and a well-published literary giant in the world of safety data and related Vaccination Adverse Event|vaccine adverse events reporting, that was his specialty. He was a _vociferous_ opponent from the very beginning.

Huh.

So, not to say that people didn't die. People did.

Yeah. Lot's of people died.

Yeah, and lots of the causes were later on revealed, were either Mechanical ventilation|ventilation problems where people were poorly treated, and everything else that was around it, so.

Okay. All right, well thank you.

Yeah, you're welcome.

I'm calling from Mendocino County and I'd like to find out the views that you hold about Fermented Cod Liver Oil|fermented cod liver oil.

Hmm. Fermented.

Well, the Fermentation|fermentation process does help make the Fat-Soluble Vitamins|fat soluble vitamins more Bioavailability|bioavailable. But Cod Liver Oil|cod liver oil is also high in Polyunsaturated Fat|omega oils which, in the short term, can act as Anti-Inflammatory|anti-inflammatories but in the long term they're damaging to your Immune System|immune system and that's how they're actually Anti-Inflammatory|anti-inflammatory, because they're helping to reduce your Immune System|immune system response. But that then can predispose you to other problems like Cancer|cancers because you _need_ your Immune System|immune system functioning to fight _cancer_.

That's where it belongs.

–of waterproof coating. It belongs there, not inside your arteries and causing Atheroma|plaque in your Cardiovascular System|cardiovascular system.

[53:16] Okay, do we have another caller? Are we still waiting for the another caller there? No. Okay, so I wasn't sure whether or not we had another one lined up.

Until 7:58 actually.

Say again?

Till 7:58, [inaudible]'s in the chair at 8 starting his show.

All right, got four four minutes folks. So, otherwise I will just carry on exposing a few things that I've dug up since.

Yeah [inaudible], you know, I was thinking about the Fatigue|fatigued–I'm a young pup at 61–and the Fatigue|fatigue that I've been noticing, you know (and I'm thinking Coronavirus Disease 2019|COVID) but I've been taking for the last, maybe, three or four years the Omega-3|Omega 3 and Omega-6|Omega 6 vitamins and stuff with my meals, my breakfast (my small breakfast, if I eat if I eat too much I fall asleep.)

Yes, the Polyunsaturated Fat|omega oils are also Goitrogen|thyroid suppressive. I'm sorry I didn't mention that earlier. So they _will_ make you more tired because they'll Anti-Metabolic|suppress your metabolism and your Metabolism|metabolism uses Thyroid Hormone|thyroid to help get and deliver Oxygen|oxygen to your cells. Without adequate Thyroid Hormone|thyroid hormone you don't have adequate Oxygen|oxygen to your cells. And therefore your Metabolism|metabolism doesn't work properly. And, yes, you do feel Fatigue|tired.

And so with the maybe like a normal diet I don't need the the omega?

Yeah, there's lots of scientific literature to show that those Polyunsaturated Fat|omega oils are just, they really are not Essential Fatty Acid|essential. And we've never eaten so many Omega-6|omega-6 oils which are the Polyunsaturated Fat|polyunsaturated fatty acids like Canola Oil|canola, Soybean|soy, Maize|corn. Because who can make oil out of Maize|corn? Who can make oil out of Soybean|soybeans? It's a process that involves a lot of chemicals and a lot of machinery and it's not natural, we naturally get oils from Animal Fat|animals or from Coconut Oil|coconuts or from Palm Oil|Palm fruits, or from Olive Oil|olives. Those are _natural_ sources of oils. And those are the safe oils.

We better–

You've done so good. I didn't hear the whole show but this one really piqued my interest and thank you so much.

Yeah.

Well thank you.

It should be up on the internet if you wanted to listen to it.

Yeah, you can listen to our show as the live stream now, or you can listen to it later on our Western Botanical Medicine > https://www.youtube.com/@westernbotanicalmedicine | Western Botanical medicine YouTube channel. And it's also on Redwood Community Radio > https://archive.kmudfm.org/ | KMUD Radio Audio Archives

Okay, well thanks for the people that have chosen to call in tonight.

And remember, you've got mud in your ear!

Hah, that's right, there we go. Well welcome and thank you to Redwood Community Radio|KMUD again, it's a big shout out to Redwood Community Radio|KMUD.

My name is Sarah Johannesen Murray, happy Thanksgiving and thank you for listening.

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